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 * From: Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk>

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 * [cc'd to -- doc@FreeBSD.org
 *             FreeBSD-translate@ngo.org.uk
 *             jdp@FreeBSD.org              ]
 * 
 * Heads up, the FDP directory change should be happening this weekend.
 * 
 * After talking with John Polstra, it was decided that the wholesale 
 * repository copies and moves within doc/ that I had originally 
 * requested were infeasible due to the scale of the request.  So we've
 * changed how it's going to be done.
 * 
 * You can see my original request here;
 * 
 *     <URL:http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=29946+0+archive/1999/freebsd-doc/19990614.freebsd-doc> [1]
 * 
 * Notice the directory structures that were requested.  That's still the 
 * target for after the conversion, we're just going to get there slightly
 * differently.
 * 
 * At some point this weekend (to be decided by CVS Rep. Manager John Polstra)
 * the doc/ repository will be frozen.  It will then be moved aside, and a 
 * new doc/ repository created.
 * 
 * All the English documentation from the old repository will be copied in to
 * its new location in the tree, retaining all the CVS logs, revision 
 * histories, and so on.
 * 
 * This will be carried out by John.

Are you sure this will work?  As I remember, you can't really "move
aside" an old repository -- people who have the stuff checked out will
have their cvs updates scream at them.

 * I will then RE-IMPORT the non-English docs into the tree into the new
 * directories.  This means that all the non-English docs will revert to 
 * revision 1.1 when you next see them.  
 * 
 * I'm almost 100% certain this won't be a problem -- while the non-English
 * docs do have revision histories and logs, they are all of the form
 * "Synched with vX.Y of the English equivalent".  So while this will lose
 * history information from the non-English docs, I don't think it's important
 * history information.
 * 
 * I'm willing to be corrected on this if there's any documentation in the
 * non-English trees that needs the revision history kept.  Please let me
 * know if this is the case.

None that I know of in the Japanese tree.  You destroyed all history
in the Japanese handbook during the docbook conversion anyway.

 * I don't want to have to stall on this much further -- waiting to get this
 * change organised has held up a bunch of planned work in doc/, and in 
 * particular, I'm grateful to the French translation team, who have patiently
 * waited for this to be sorted out before I can commit their excellent work 
 * on translating the Handbook, FAQ, and web site to French.
 * 
 * N
 * 
 * [1] There are two changes to that message.  In conjunction with the recently
 *     committed change that moved /usr/share/local/zh_TW.BIG5 to zh_TW.Big5,
 *     the "Big5" variant will be used in the new repository as well.
 * 
 *     And after comments from the Japanese Doc. Proj., the directory for
 *     Japanese docs in the repository will be ja_JP.EUC-JP.

Objection.  That is not a widely used name in Japan and has no basis
in standards.  This will also make us incompatible with X/Open
(think XFree86), which use ja_JP.eucJP.  There is also at least one
standard ($B7'C+$5$s$N$*$C$7$c$C$F$$$?$N!"1QLu$9$k$H2?$K$J$k$s$G$9$+!)(B)
that says eucJP is the correct name.

As I said in the other mail, we would like to see it stay as "ja" and
have "ja" defined as an official alias to ja_JP.EUC (for now, to be
changed to ja_JP.eucJP or ja_JP.EUC-JP later).

 *     Note that these names are not (necessarily) the same names that the
 *     documentation will be installed under, they are for the CVS 
 *     repository.
 * -- 
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 * 
 * -- 
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 *  non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs
 *  the links.
 *     -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu>
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